wasn't one of the whiners on there and i rarely had any problems to speak of on the forums but i have left because the feeling there idk its weird to explain but i dont like posting there anymore because if its not another player trolling its a mod or employe deciding that nothing important was said and that it should be closed or deleted  ive played this game for a very long time and its upsets me to feel like the company doesn't care about what most of the people say  one person pops in and ruins it for everybody it seems